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We need mere protection!
When you go to a zCatch map there is every second player bot!
But not only in zCatch!
With bots it is not much fun...
Teeworlds hasn't got good protection.
Can we do sg for this?
Pls answer!
My English is bad!
Can we do sg for this?
Pls answer!
Votekick the botter.
We need more protection!
More? Do we have any?
More? Do we have any?
Votekick the botter.
xD yes we haven't!
But kick is not the best!
When no one vote: yes
Or they come back!
We must to do sg!
Sometimes they do so sg what dangerous for your computer too!!!!!!!
Votekick the botter.
1.Some servers doenst allow to players kick others.
2.The vote sometimes is not working.
3.Theres maybe something we can do.But is only an idea none will lisen to me 
love from:Dremy
It's the server admin responsibility if he disables votekick, noone would really want to do that on his server unless he has a few active moderators.
If kick doesn't work, simply leave the server. Since Teeworlds is open source, there's no real magical solution against cheaters.
In fact if the admin server make the vote able sometimes players kick with no reason and you can be kicked, and tust me it happens to all of the servers.So teeworlds need protaction about votes and bots i dont know how that happens but in the next version it will be great if it happens! 
In fact if the admin server make the vote able sometimes players kick with no reason and you can be kicked, and tust me it happens to all of the servers.So teeworlds need protaction about votes and bots i dont know how that happens but in the next version it will be great if it happens!
If the majority of the players on the server think you're spoiling their playing time, then it's quite fair to be kicked.
Like Dune wrote, once tw. Is open-source there is no possible protection against bots.
Bots are the reason why I don't play z.catch anymore.
Even if MOD creators could create a protection against bots, some idiot programmer could create some new client that take the opposite of that.
The only way to protect against bots is kick them.
Btw, wrong section
I don't see that many bots as you describe it... Yes, there are some, but if there is a certain level of players in the server, start a vote a second after they're out...
As Dune wrote i am not the guy who spoilling their game is not happen only to me and i also say that the kick with no reason,Anyway thats offtopic.HeroiAmarelo is also right about what he say about someone who can make a client witch is no open-source.Now because is open-source every noob make a bot and use it 
WHAT WE CAN DO FOR NOW.....Nothin
so....this topic is close...
Ran into multiple bots today on vanilla, clear and obvious. Someone put up a vote, and it failed.
And how about a code that automatically detects bots?
For example:
if (player1_shoot_on_player2)
player1_bot ++
if(player1_shot_and_miss)
player1_bot = 0
if(player1_bot = 20)
kick player1I usually code in PHP, so the syntax of the code is in PHP.
PS: I Used Google translation
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Bots can not get away with a rebound, right?
Just add:
if (player1_shot_and_miss OR player1_wallshot)
player1_bot = 0
You'r code is basely this:
Good players are considerated bots and got banned. So what? All Z-Catch winners are bots? Nice.
Btw. Bots can fail too
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So where is the difference between good players and bots?
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Sorry, I mean in-game, how we detect a bot?
Because if the only difference between a good player and a bot is that the bot is cheating, how we know that someone is using a bot?
See that happens all the time
Sorry, I mean in-game, how we detect a bot?
Because if the only difference between a good player and a bot is that the bot is cheating, how we know that someone is using a bot?
Basely you can't be sure if a player is using a bot or not.
But there are some ways to try to discover it:
1) Some players use other bots at the same time (Emote or Spin + Aim)
2) One client make the position of a player stay always on the same position (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfn5YXWgoL0 - 0:56~1:10)
3) On OpenFNG bots keep shooting, even wen you are already frozen
4) Bots change the mouse position really quickly, and many times, to kill other people
5) Bots normally fail while using grenade
Most bots _always_ aim to the closest player to them, even when both tees are moving!
If a player disappears (kill/wall) they immediately aim to the other player next to them.
Jerky move of weapon if player(s) appear.
Weapon (Riffle) _always_ aim to the direction of the tee, so check where the player aims (+ tolerance). If he doesnt aim to the tee, even if its the closest player its probably not a bot or at least a "ctrl"-bot (a bot where you must press a key and then it aims).
If a tee is close enough to the bot, the bot aims the center of the tee.
If a Tee change direction of weapon quickly from one tee to the other tee it is probably a bot (in regard to the other points above).
Check if the player shoots in the same moment when the tee appears but mind the bots ping.
There is no proper way to detect a bot with any algorithm.
Detecting via accuracy:
- will kick high-level players
- consider: bots, especially in vanilla, miss more shots than high-level players (kind of all grenades are misses!)
- how do you want to detect shots that are supposed to hit and "luckshots" (spamming with gun, defensive grenades)?
Detecting via aiming:
- there are bots that always aim the opponent tee, all the time
- there are bots, that don't do
- bots, that do, will change their code
Conclusion: You might be able to detect few different kinds of bots, but devs will change their code, or ppl will simply start using other bots.
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