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matricks wrote:

Regarding the hammer, I don't want to make it weaker, I just want to remove that it's exploitable. As I said, the worst case scenario is that you spew out 100dmg over 1 second. This is the possibility that I want to remove. I think I will go with a reload time only when you hit someone. This would remove the possibility of exploiting it.

Alright then, but will you "feel" a reload time like with the shotgun or will it be just like right now, only with silent systems that prevent it from being exploited? Because I saw some hammer kills during the ESL finals and they all seemed to me legit. The outcome of a hammer rush is so unpredictable that there should be a reward for the risk: I hope the weapon feeling doesn't change too much.

Magnet wrote:

I played on Lost for some time, and I think that when you play on Lost you have to put more thoughts to the map rather than playing. This map has zero user-friendliness. Especially the "ladder" at each side in which fights are only won by the one who trained laser bounce there (and better ping obviously). Other bad aspects include the lack of variations in the spawn points, the terrible graphics and their lack of consistence... but those are fixed by Lost Landil that everyone should use if they're going to play Lost.

If you compare it to CTF2, both maps have a learning curve but CTF2 isn't treacherous. Someone playing TW well will find his marks on CTF2 way faster than on regular Lost. That's why imho the instagib tournament should be CTF2 only.

Don't take it badly, but who said that instagib, and by extent instagib maps, were the easy way to play teeworlds? To go further in this discussion, I would say that Lost is an awful map when you don't know it. I have hated this map som much at first! But you know, I'm a magician, and as a magician, I learnt from my art that training is everything. And that's the point on Lost. Lost needs a lot of training in order to get the right path and hook spots. And it requires a lot of training and brain if you want to keep the flag and take it back in your base. The only thing I would blame CTF2 for is that if someone gets the flag and go out of the base in highspped without being killed, it is quite surely a capture. This is  not true for Lost, and I guess that's why scores can be very large on Lost if a team has experienced players. I hope I'm clear with my english

What should you put into the config file? Just standard CTF stuff or what?

Chi11y wrote:

Now write a detailed description for every one of these weapons where you explain why the weapons are totally unique and fills an aspect that isn't already filled by another weapon.

Simply: No. Teeworlds is and should be as simple as possible, 5 weapons is more than enough, imo we would prolly have been fine with only the original four(hammer,pistol,rocket,shotgun), as they fill the needs in every aspect.

I'm not going to write a detailed description if your repply is going to be as unimaginative as this one. Besides, you should never balance stuff on paper. Without actual playtesting, numbers are meaningless. I don't know C well enough to write it on my own (nevermind c++).\
Fills every role ? Join an instagib server. Every weapon there fills every imaginable role. You have close quarters laser, middle range laser, long range laser. Who needs more ? The mod even simplifies the game so that tactics are not needed. Just stay on the edge of the battlefield, it's safer than in the middle. No items to pick up and resources to manage.

If simplicity was all that mattered we'd be still playing Quake1 and worshiping rocket launcher, rocket launcher, rocket launcher, lightning gun and grenade launcher. Once in a while someone tries something new despite the "I can't see the point of it" people and the world becomes a better place.

That doesn't actually do anything. Here is my current code:

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It only sends out one grenade. I thought this was because the shotspread was equal to 1, so I changed it to three with no luck.