Yet another bot in teeworlds (Page 3 of 4)

"lolKids" already spam servers with bots. and as Siile said it is super easy to make a bot with or with out his contributions.  I think it should be published so that it can be built into vanilla TeeWrolds as an AI system.

Yay, good, I hope other people will improve it.
Other online games have bots and no one complains. Kids will be kids, but the comfort of having usable open-source bot outweighs that IMO.

I've been around teeworlds for quite a few years (remember teewars?) but not as a very active player. On and off mostly.
I still return to it not just because I find it a great game but also because it's easy to get someone to try it.
The initial learning curve is almost non-existent. It works great for LAN parties. If everyone is new in the game, it's super fun and enjoyable.
That is until they try it online and find someone skilled. It's too hardcore, they can't keep up and most frequently drop it.
In my opinion, the skill gap between new and experienced players and the lack of tools to help often pushes new players away.

As I see it, bots are one way to help this.
So for years I've been looking at different bot efforts that sadly never got to a point of being useful.

Seeing someone's effort being pushed back due to fears of misuse makes me rather sad and annoyed...

Anyway, just wanted to show my support to @rand() and say that what I read in the thread is promising. If you can get the bot engine to a point where people can actually use it to train offline, I think it may actually benefit the community in the long term. Specially if like @android272 and @pelya mentioned, you can make their level adjustable either automatically or by user choice.
In this way, bots could be used as a tutorial or training ground to help filling the skill gap I mentioned. A pattern common in most FPS games. Get to know the game before going out there to the online jungle.

On a side-note @rand(), in case you never heard of it, have a look at:
http://omni-bot.invisionzone.com/wiki/
and one game where you can try that engine: http://www.etlegacy.com/
This engine is quite advanced and designed for 3D games. Still there may be some ideas and/or code that you could reuse from there.

In the future, much like @pelya I'd love to see this built into vanilla teeworlds. If properly implemented, people could then filter servers based on presence/absence of bots.
That way, if you really hate playing with or against bots, you can filter out servers that have them.

Last but not least, @rand() You mentioned back there that you would be releasing the code sometime in the future. Do you have it somewhere already? If not, do you have any release date planned?

Cheers

No pressure, we all have RL stuff to take care and other priorities.
I agree that making it server side would be a nice way to address some of the community concerns. Or at least reduce their immediate impact.

Just wanted to show my support and not let your efforts go to waste or be forgotten due to whatever reasons

I'm keeping tabs on the thread now. Progress won't go unnoticed

Best success and nice work so far.

ehm... just exclude the bots from vote.... and Rand() I may host another one. -> pm

Updated

Bots are exclude from vote. They rejoin if a bot's slot is released (ie a player leaves).
I add a vote to set the bot number (2;4;6). (and classic votes for dm and ctf)

Each bot implies more computation ine the server main loop. It could lead to more latency.
Plus, the AI is still basic. Playing with 15 bots is not interesting.

Not counting bots in server browser is important to respect master server rules and be close to a pure server.
The number of bots can technicaly be set from 0 to 16. It cant be more than 16 since a bot take virtually a player slot. That's why bots leave when players join.

Btw, since its a server mod, i'll release the source as soon as the bot code uses deeply server functions.

I'll made a post in modification soon for the mod.

About the skin, i don't want to set a skin hardcoded (for the client).
For th server, maybe a config variable for it.
I add custom color for bot, so there are obvious in DM
See : https://youtu.be/viqnfPmHNlk

I added a server variable to configure bot's skin. (set to x_ninja atm)

Update about the server hosting the bot.
To match server rules (about human player), i stopped register to master servers.
You still can connect on it ('195.154.80.148', 8303)

You also can use the server mod https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtop … pid=116016

I didn't release neither binary nor source for the client bot, but you should be interested in the server mod version that is easier to use (since i release the binary) : https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtop … pid=116016

However, the AI is still stupid and not really interesting to play againt except for few players that love it :3

Btw, the server doesnt appear on server browser since i removed registration to respect master server rules. It's still running at 195.154.80.148:8303

Edit:
Moreover i didn't work on the AI of the client bot since weeks. I m currently working on the mod version, especially on the 0.7 teeworlds mod.

Would it be possible if you could PM or email me the source (server pref, but client may be an interesting read), like you did with pelya? I am very interested in how you would implement a bot.